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The Perversity of Citing The Black Codes To Defend Gun-Control Laws

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One of the most bizarre aspects of modern Second Amendment litigation is how supporters of gun control are forced to favorably cite Jim Crow laws. In all other contexts, these sort of anti-canonical statutes would be untouchable. Yet, when it comes to guns, all the usual rules go out the window. In Wolford v. Lopez, one of the leading authorities for Hawaii's law is an 1865 Louisiana statute. Neal Katyal described it as a "dead ringer" for the Hawaii statute.

During the oral argument, Justice Gorsuch was incredulous that Hawaii was relying on this shameful precedent. He asked Wolford's counsel if it was appropriate to rely on such a law to inform the nation's traditions.

JUSTICE GORSUCH: Your friends on the other side in the Ninth Circuit relied on two statutes in particular. One was the 1771 New Jersey law that you were just discussing with Justice Kagan. But the other one that was left unmentioned was an 1865 Louisiana statute that was adopted immediately after the Civil War as part of an effort, it appears, to disarm black people. A Reconstruction governor later explained that this law, of course, was aimed at the freedmen. Do you think the black codes, as they're called, should inform this Court's decision-making when trying to discern what is this nation's traditions?

MR. BECK: I do not, Your Honor.

JUSTICE GORSUCH: Well, your friend on the other side says it should and that the 1865 statute is a "dead ringer" for this statute.

MR. BECK: The 1865 law was expressly passed to discriminate against African Americans that were newly freed slaves. And I just don't see how a law like that can be used to be analogized to a modern-day law, this modern-day law, Your Honor.

Gorsuch had a similar question for Sarah Harris, the Principal Deputy SG:

JUSTICE GORSUCH: And then, lastly, there's been some discussion about the black codes, and maybe they should be relevant and maybe we really should consider them as significant here. In fact, they're a dead ringer. Thoughts?

MS. HARRIS: It is 2026 and it is somewhat astonishing that black codes, which are unconstitutional, are being offered as evidence of what our tradition of constitutionally permissible firearm regulation looks like. Those laws are dead ringers only in the sense that this law too is an unconstitutional pretext. The black codes were offered, as you mentioned, by states before their readmission to the union. It is not an indictment of the Bruen framework to say that unconstitutional laws do not count in illuminating a valid tradition.

Yet, Justice Jackson tried at great length to explain why the Black Code statute was relevant. First, Jackson tried to suggest that disregarding the Black codes undermines the Bruen test, which looks at all traditions.

JUSTICE JACKSON: Let me just ask you about the black codes. Justice Gorsuch raised it. And I guess what I'm wondering --your answer to him was they can't be and shouldn't be used. And I guess I'm wondering whether that doesn't signal a problem with the Bruen test, that to the extent that we have a test that relates to historical regulation, but all of the history of regulation is not taken into account, I --I think there might be something wrong with the test. So can you speak to that?

MR. BECK: There's nothing wrong with the Bruen test, Your Honor. Just on a fundamental level, the black codes can't be used because they dealt to discriminate against a small -

Second, Jackson said that Beck's approach would ignore the lived experience of those who were subject to Black Codes.

JUSTICE JACKSON: To --to people other than the people in this small segment that you're talking about, who were a part of society, but I guess you're saying that for the purpose of this test, we're not going to consider what happened to them?

MR. BECK: No. What I'm saying is that the --the black codes dealt with a very --it wasn't a law of general applicability. It was designed to discriminate against --it was a racist law designed to iscriminate against African Americans, whereas, here, the law at issue here is a law that applies to everyone. We can't use a racist, discriminatory law to justify a modern-day law that applies to the general public, Your Honor.

That was not at all Beck's point. A blatantly unconstitutional law cannot form part of the tradition for purposes of Bruen.

Jackson offered similar questions for Harris:

JUSTICE JACKSON: So I guess I really don't understand your response to Justice Gorsuch on the black codes. I mean I thought the black codes were being offered here under the Bruen test to determine the constitutionality of this regulation. And it's because we have a test that asks us to look at the history and tradition. The fact that the black codes were at some later point determined themselves to be unconstitutional doesn't seem to me to be relevant to the assessment that Bruen is asking us to make. So can you say more about that?

Harris offered a different response. She countered that the black codes were unconstitutional ab initio.

MS. HARRIS: Absolutely. Black codes were unconstitutional from the moment of their inception because they are pretextual laws that are designed to ensure that newly freed slaves are returned to a condition of sharecropping -

Justice Jackson did not like that response. Jackson argued that the laws were not halted by the courts, so they were not unconstitutional.

JUSTICE JACKSON: Okay. Let me stop you there. They were not deemed unconstitutional at the time that they were enacted. They were part of the history and tradition of the country. And when we have a test now that's asking us to look at what people were doing back then, I don't understand why they should be excluded.

MS. HARRIS: Because they are outliers. They are by definition unconstitutional. They have been -

JUSTICE JACKSON: That was later.

MS. HARRIS: --found unconstitutional.

JUSTICE JACKSON: Afterwards, not at the time. And if the test says what's happening at the time tells us what's constitutional for this purpose, why aren't they in?

MS. HARRIS: Respectfully, a law is always unconstitutional when it --from its inception --it's --when it's -

This is a fascinating exchange. Jackson's conception of constitutionality turns on whether the courts declared the codes unconstitutional. The SG's office counters that the law was unconstitutional from the moment it was signed into law, even if no court had said so. I am a departmentalist, and favor the executive's answer. Jackson, a judicial supremacist, does not. I wonder how Jackson would view Lincoln's treatment of the Dred Scott decision.

Justice Gorsuch returned to the theme during an extended colloquy with Neal Katyal, counsel for Hawaii. He asked how the black codes should inform the Court's analysis:

JUSTICE GORSUCH: The other question I want to ask you is the black codes. I --I struggle to see what relevance laws that are outliers --and in Bruen, we're not supposed to consider outliers. They're put aside under our test. We're looking for the mainstream and a significant tradition. And you rely very heavily on an 1865 black code law in Louisiana. You say it's a dead ringer and a reason alone to affirm the judgment. And I really --I --I really want to understand how that could be.  I want to understand how you think black codes should inform this Court's decision-making. It's quite an astonishing claim to me.

Katyal tried to explain that the black codes, as a general matter, were bad, but this particular statute was not racist legislation. After all, Katyal explained, Congress admitted Louisiana to the Union with this law on the books.

MR. KATYAL: So --so the black codes are undoubtedly a shameful part of our history, but that doesn't at all mean that this particular law is irrelevant to Second Amendment analysis for two reasons. First, the Solicitor General says correctly, as she did just now, that Louisiana wasn't a state in 1865. The relevant point is what happened in 1868, when Louisiana was admitted to be a state. The Act of June 22nd, 1868, admitted Louisiana as a state. That was the radical Reconstruction Congress. It examined the Louisiana laws, including this specific statute, and Louisiana was admitted into the union by the Reconstruction Congress.

To be clear, the Fourteenth Amendment was ratified a few weeks later on July 9, 1868. (Seth Barrett Tillman and I discuss the act to admit Louisiana, as well as other statutes, in our article on Section 3 at FN 426.)

Justice Gorsuch interrupted, and said Katyal was dancing around the question:

JUSTICE GORSUCH: You're not answering the question. The question is it's an outlier, and --and you just called it a shameful outlier. And I --I agree with that. And Bruen was supposed to look at the mainstream of our tradition and history, not outlying statutes that were unconstitutional the moment they were passed and, yes, when Louisiana was admitted to the union. I understand a lot of people like to cite the black codes who promote gun restrictions, who would -otherwise, they would be garlic in front of a vampire in front of them. But, here, they -they like them, they embrace them. And I'm really interested in why.

Katyal repeated that this particular law was not racist.

MR. KATYAL: So, Justice Gorsuch, when I said the black codes were a shameful period, there are parts of the black codes like this particular statute which were race-neutral, which the Congress of the United States, the -the same Congress that ratified the Fourteenth Amendment, implicitly blessed by admitting Louisiana back in. It didn't treat that with the same --with respect to other laws from other states, but it did here. And, most importantly, even the opponents of the black codes recognized, as the Sickles general order says, that you have no right to carry a firearm onto someone's property absent their consent.

The period of Reconstruction and readmission was a very messy. The records on Section 3 speak to this complexity. At different points, different factions in Congress took different positions with respect to a whole host of issues. Ultimately, all we have is a bill readmitting those states, with a host of conditions. It is tough to argue that Congress "implicitly blessed" a particular gun law by admitting Lousiana, as well as several other states, a few weeks before the Fourteenth Amendment was ratified. Is there any evidence that Congress scanned all of the law books, line by line, to determine what laws to maintain? I think it more likely that Congress prioritized the most egregious laws that were being enforced, and deprioritized laws that did not have much of an effect. Was there any record of how often this Louisiana law was enforced; that is, how many prosecutions were there for people who carried a firearm into a business without permission.

Justice Alito challenged the notion that this law was somehow race neutral.

JUSTICE ALITO: Mr. Katyal, wasn't the purpose of the laws in the post---in the post-Reconstruction south that disarmed black people precisely to prevent them from doing what the Second Amendment is designed to protect, which is to defend yourself against attacks? They didn't want the --they wanted to disarm the black population in order to help the Klan terrorize them and other --and law enforcement officers in that period in that region, they wanted to put them at the mercy of racist law enforcement officers. So is it not the height of irony to cite a law that was enacted for exactly the purpose of preventing someone from exercising the Second Amendment right to cite this as an example of what the Second Amendment protects?

MR. KATYAL: So, Justice Alito, we quite agree with you that parts of the black codes were motivated by and had exactly that operation. Our point to you is this consent requirement did not operate that way. Indeed, if anything, it protected black churches and black-owned businesses and the like by insisting on this consent rule. And that is why the radical Reconstruction Congress admitted Louisiana back in. They said no to various laws, but they never did that with respect to this. And this law stayed on the books for a long time.

At common law, churches were not open to the public, in the same sense that a common carrier might be. Indeed, churches have the unique authority to exclude for reasons protected by the Free Exercise Clause. For these reasons, Justice Sotomayor's questions about carrying in churches were a bit of a non-sequitur. But did the "consent rule" really keep the KKK out of black businesses? I am doubtful. If only those who perpetrated the Colfax Massacre of 1873 had dutifully observed the laws on carrying arms.

Towards the end of the argument, Justice Thomas felt compelled to speak up during the seriatim round, something he rarely does.

JUSTICE THOMAS: If you're going to cite the Louisiana black codes of 1865, don't you also have to cite the subsequent adoption of the Fourteenth Amendment that was in part generated because of laws like that?

MR. KATYAL: Right. So that is exactly our point, that the Reconstruction Congress that ratified the Fourteenth Amendment, this is the unusual case in which you have those folks saying effectively Louisiana should come in. And many of the parts of the black codes, including parts that Justice Alito were referring to that were racially discriminatory about firearms, were struck from the Louisiana law. But this law stayed in effect. And so, yes, we do think it is relevant history. We don't think our argument depends on it because there's statute after statute from the founding on. And the idea that those --that the number of statutes we've provided isn't enough, I think, is --is very hard to reconcile when you have zero tradition, zero evidence on the other side saying these statutes were problematic. I mean, these statutes were around. You would have thought someone, if this was an infringement on the right to keep and bear arms, would have had a court case, a commentator, anything like what you had in Bruen. You've got none of that.

Thomas pointed to his McDonald dissent, which laid this history out in detail.

JUSTICE THOMAS: Well, actually, there was quite --as I said in my McDonald opinion, quite a bit of discussion of these sorts of laws and the consideration of some that they thought that the Privilege --or Immunities Clause in the Fourteenth Amendment preempted these. That's simply my point.

Or maybe the better argument is there is no relevant tradition to support Hawaii's law.

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I see what Justice Jackson is doing, even if the author doesn't. Her point is that if originalism had any ethical integrity, you cannot ignore the shameful parts of American history. You must accept that the history of the Second Amendment includes the 1790s slave patrols, the 1860s black laws, the 1960s anti-Black Panther gun seizures, all of it.
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Profound sigh. Since it’s important to update when the world proves you wrong, and to leave a record of the fact that you updated -

I am really kind of depressed about the Bowen Yang cancellation / Groveling Apology Retraction.

Not because it particularly matters in the greater scheme of things, which it doesn’t. Not because it’s the worst thing to happen in the world of US politics recently, which it definitely isn’t. Certainly not because I care about Bowen Yang.

But, goddammit, I really thought we weren’t doing this shit anymore.

And apparently we are. Not as much as we used to be, not in as many places as we used to be, but - enough that, in the year of Our Lord 2026, with everything being the way it is, an actual-factual celebrity can be terrified by the mob into self-abasement for the crime of agreeing with Matt Yglesias about electoral strategy.

“They’ll never stop” is still wrong. The world changes, and the tides of culture ebb and flow, and at some point you really can’t wring blood out of a stone anymore. But I have more sympathy than I did a week ago for the people who think that they’ll never stop.

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Schools are getting worse in most red states

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Improving outcomes in classrooms like this is the real test of education policy. (Photo by Fly View Productions)

I am a believer in the “Mississippi Miracle,” where one of America’s worst-resourced school systems has achieved some of its best results in early reading through solid training and rigorous implementation of best practices. More broadly, I am bought in on the idea of what David Brooks hailed as “the biggest education story of the last few years … the so-called Southern surge, the significant rise in test scores in states such as Mississippi, Alabama, Louisiana, and Tennessee.”

But I do think it’s important to pay attention to the limits of this story.

It’s not a significant rise in test scores in states such as Mississippi, Alabama, Louisiana, and Tennessee. It’s just those four states.

That’s a great achievement by those states, but I’ve seen a fair amount of discourse using their example to hail red state governance more broadly.

Viewing this through a narrow partisan lens, it’s worth noting that Louisiana’s turnaround mostly happened under John Bel Edwards, a Democratic governor. But more to the point, there are way more than four red states. If we were actually seeing broad-based educational improvement as a result of conservative governance, that would be much more embarrassing for Democrats but much better for the country than the reality.

One reason that Mississippi has shot up the rankings is that not only have its scores been going up, but scores in most places are getting worse. As a result, a state can now be a top performer with results that would have been pretty average a decade ago.

That’s not to take anything away from Mississippi, where schools and state officials are doing a truly excellent job of combating these serious national headwinds.

But if you want to understand what Mississippi’s results do — and don’t — mean for American society, you need to get the ratio of figure to ground correctly. Mississippi stands out partly because the national background has gotten worse. Most red states aren’t seeing similar improvements, and students in blue states aren’t doing well either. The failures look different, but they’re still bad.

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Probably the best thing you can say about the conservative approach to education right now, all things considered, is that when Republicans give you a school system that doesn’t work, they also won’t spend too much of your money on it, which is at least coherent.

It would be nice, though, if both parties would take the task of school performance more seriously. This means not just learning from Mississippi, but re-embracing some of the lost lessons of the No Child Left Behind era.

The “Southern sag” that I just made up

Consider that if you add up public-school enrollment in all four surging states, it’s about equal to the number of school kids in Florida, while Texas has many more students than that. When I was a young pundit, Texas and Florida were the examples smart journalists would cite of conservative states that were counterintuitively doing better than virtue-signaling liberal states at educating their students. If the surging four were now joining Texas and Florida in delivering good results, that would be incredible news for America’s kids.

But look at the fourth-grade NAEP reading scores in Texas and Florida — they’re getting worse!

This “Southern sag,” unfortunately, involves more than twice as many children as are benefiting from the Southern surge.

Of course it doesn’t make a ton of sense to talk about a Southern sag, since there’s nothing distinctively Southern about it. It’s just that national scores have gone broadly down. They’re down in the South and down in the Midwest and down in every other region. They’re down in blue states and they’re down in red states. The achievements in MS/AL/TN/LA are genuinely worth celebrating and paying attention to, but the fact that Texas and Florida and all kinds of other places are moving backward also underscores that you can’t just blame Democrats or teachers unions or believe that Republicans have this figured out.

Indeed, the other “state” that has done pretty well during this period is Washington, D.C., which was a wildly below-average school system when I first moved here and is now almost exactly average for a big city.

D.C.’s fourth-grade reading achievements are not as impressive as Mississippi’s, but on the flip side our eighth-grade reading scores have improved more than theirs, indicating that we have perhaps done something right.

And I would say that one of the big things that is driving success in the minority of places that are succeeding is that those places are trying.

Accountability is key

The No Child Left Behind law that was passed on a bipartisan basis in 2002 seems to have worked well. But it led to significant bipartisan backlash and was largely dismantled in Obama’s second term, and things have generally gotten much worse since then.

And yet, almost nobody is calling for going back to a system that was delivering improved results.

I think people know, broadly speaking, that teachers and unions generally did not like No Child Left Behind because it threatened negative consequences for a poor-performing minority of schools. This reflects poorly on them and conservatives are right to believe that public sector unions often lead to bad public sector outcomes.

But in most cases, rather than “it reflects poorly on unions that they oppose effective education reforms, so we should blow them off and run school systems,” the trend on the right has been to behave as if the goal of education policy is to dismantle teacher unions. As a result, the biggest reform trends have not been the kind of curriculum efforts we see in the Southern surge states.

Instead, there’s been a ton of enthusiasm for vouchers and education savings accounts, which are basically efforts to replace public-school funding with tax breaks for spending money on your kids’ education. The evidence on the effectiveness of these programs has generally been negative in terms of the impact on student achievement. This is true including (and perhaps especially) in states like Tennessee and Louisiana, where the mainstream public-school systems have been getting good results.

The basic issue here, as we know from the higher education market, is that schools don’t really compete on the basis of being highly effective at teaching students.

The “best” colleges in America are the ones that attract the strongest applicants. And most students just want to go to the “best” schools. Nobody even attempts to measure whether the teaching and learning practices at Harvard and Princeton are effective; it’s not considered relevant to the undertaking. If you have strong religious motives for wanting your kids to attend private school, if you’re rich and inclined to send your kids to private school anyway, or if you’re not particularly interested in education and just favor the downstream political-economy impact of harming teachers unions, then subsidies or tax breaks for parents of private-school students is a great approach.

But if the problem with unions is they oppose accountability for results, then the solution can’t be to shift to a privatization system that makes accountability impossible.

Progressives should get their act together

What I will say on behalf of the conservative approach to education is that, while it doesn’t work, it’s at least coherent. Vouchers and education savings accounts do not, in practice, lead parents to select highly effective schools for their kids. But if you do want to do that, you’re allowed to under a privatized system.

And more broadly, while the school performance trends in Texas and Florida are bad, the school systems are at least cheap to run. I would say the general deal with state government in Texas is that Republicans have made it a very harsh place to be poor. There’s no Medicaid expansion, stingy benefits, a criminal justice system that’s focused on insulating the affluent from crime rather than having low rates of violence, and generally bad public health outcomes. The school system evolving in the same direction of doing a bad job serving high-need cases would be of a piece with all that.

But in defense of Texas, Republicans don’t really run around claiming to be the people who care a lot about helping poor people.

Democrats have landed in a weird equilibrium where they typically do say that things like public schools and education and the well-being of poor kids are important.

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If nothing else, they generally want to spend a lot of money on public schools — in which case they really ought to care a lot about whether they’re doing a good job.

A long time ago, a union leader offered “We can’t have public money without public accountability” as an anti-voucher line, and I think it was a good one. But then you have to have accountability in your public system!

One of the striking things about the No Child Left Behind era is that a lot of the abstract, high-level criticisms of the law made perfect sense. It’s not really reasonable to expect public schools to eliminate “achievement gaps” or deliver universal proficiency. In a country with millions of kids, if you have any kind of reasonably rigorous standards, then someone is going to end up left behind.

But despite these conceptual flaws, the simple step of measuring results and imposing (generally very mild) consequences for bad performance was good. It’s true that this annoyed various stakeholders — not only teachers, because parents did not like hearing bad news about their school or their kids. But as adults, I think we understand that you can’t actually improve at something unless you’re willing to get some negative feedback.

The Virginia test case

An interesting test case is coming down the line in Virginia.

The state has a newly elected Democratic governor, Abigail Spanberger, who has been cultivating a moderate brand. A new Democratic trifecta is obviously not going to voucherize the Virginia public-school system or cut school spending to give everyone a tax break. What they ought to do is what you would expect Democrats to do with a public-school system: try to make it better so as to deliver better results, especially for high-need kids.

The federal government is no longer trying to make states hold schools accountable for performance, but state governments are still allowed to do this. And as it happens, Glenn Youngkin’s outgoing administration brought in two former Obama Education Department hands (including friend of the newsletter Chad Aldeman) to recommend changes to the state’s school accountability system, recommendations that were released in December while Youngkin was a lame duck.

Going forward with these recommendations would help new Governor Abigail Spanberger deliver some real results on education quality and build her résumé for national leadership. On the other hand, she already spurned the state’s unions during the campaign by saying she would keep Virginia’s right-to-work status, and there’s some sentiment that she therefore owes labor some favors.

This doesn’t really make a lot of sense to me.

Having already done the courageous thing, stiff-arming the groups and winning without them, she should try to deliver on the idea that Democrats care about the quality of public services. There’s no real reason that “schools should do a good job of teaching” should be a right-coded idea — it’s not reflective of the trends in most states where Republicans are governing, and indifference to school quality does not align with any progressive ideas or values.

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A week of falling water (Sketches of the Week for Week 2 of 2026) Copy

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A couple week’s back we visited Frank Lloyd Wright’s Fallingwater, a really lovely building that perfectly illustrates why you probably shouldn’t build a poured-concrete modernist gem over an active river in a region of the country that has multiple freeze-thaw cycles each year. Here is the current state of the house (we were there on the absolute final day before they close for six months of renovations/restorations):

My reference photo of Fallingwater tented for restoration (Dec 2025)

So, on the one hand, a bummer to go to an architectural gem and not be able to see it. On the other, I really loved seeing Fallingwater in situ in person (context: my father was trained as an architect, my mother as a painter and lithographer; I grew up with a lot of art and in a lot of museums and a lot of opinions about architecture and design and construction ad nauseam). I especially loved the tension between this balanced, monumental, (in)famous building and this towering unnamed pine tree.

I spent the next week drawing it, compositing my photo and several existing professional shots of the building, so I could have untented Fallingwater in its place among the trees, scaled as I saw it at the end of December 2025. The results were five sketches: Fallingwater (i–v). My wife and kids were divided and which attempt came out best.

My son insisted it was Fallingwater (iii) (he couldn’t say why, but I think it’s because he was standing with me when I took the above pic, and liked how this sketch captures both cataracts and the pool between):

A pencil sketch of Frank Lloyd Write's Fallingwater

I preferred (iv), because it felt like I got the depth on the rocky outcropping right, and there was some stuff with line weight that worked out:

A pencil sketch of Frank Lloyd Write's Fallingwater

And my wife and daughter chose (v), with my daughter specifically liking that you could glimpse the windows and underpinning structure better:

A pencil sketch of Frank Lloyd Write's Fallingwater

In retrospect, I agree with my wife and daughter: Fallingwater (v) is best, but mostly because it makes the tree and the building equal protagonists in the scene. Also, the rocky outcropping is pretty good.

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Matt LaFleur is left "speechless" by Aaron Rodgers's comments - NBC Sports

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During a post-game press conference following Monday night’s playoff loss to the Texans, Steelers quarterback Aaron Rodgers delivered a rant regarding the perceived presence of now-former Steelers coach Mike Tomlin and current Packers head coach Matt LaFleur on the hot seat.

Rodgers’s hot-seat remarks may have shattered some of the lingering ice between Rodgers and LaFleur.

I’m speechless,” LaFleur told Mike Silver of <a href="http://TheAthletic.com" rel="nofollow">TheAthletic.com</a> via text message. “He didn’t have to do that, but he did. [It’s] one of the nicest compliments [of] my life. I’m so appreciative of him for that.”

LaFleur coaches Rodgers for four seasons in Green Bay, guiding him to a pair of league MVP awards. By the time Rodgers was traded to the Jets in 2023, the relationship between LaFleur and Rodgers was strained, at best.

“I mean, this league has changed a lot in my 21 years,” Rodgers told reporters on Monday night. “You know, when you hear a conversation about the Mike Tomlins of the world, Matt LaFleurs of the world, those are just two that I played for, and when I first got in the league, there wouldn’t be conversation about whether those guys were on the ‘hot seat,’ you know, but the way that the league is covered now and the way that there’s snap decisions and the validity given to the, you know, the Twitter experts and all the, you know, experts on TV now who make it seem like they know what the hell they’re talking about, to me that’s an absolute joke.

“And for either of those two guys to be on the hot seat is really apropos of where we’re at as a society and a league, because obviously Matt’s done a lot of great things in Green Bay, and we had a lot of success. Mike T, he’s had more success than damn near anybody in the league, you know, for the last 19, 20 years. And more than that, though, when you have the right guy and the culture’s right, you don’t think about making a change. But there’s a lot of pressure that comes from the outside, and obviously that sways decisions from time to time, but it’s not how I would do things and not how the league used to be.”

The reality is simple. The beast that has helped Rodgers make nearly $400 million during his career has created an appetite for non-stop coverage, reporting, and analysis. And fans of the bad teams expect them to try to change. If owners feel compelled to make changes in order to keep making the kind of money needed to pay the salaries of players like Rodgers, that’s their decision.

Folks in the media are merely trying to figure out not where the pink slips are but where the pink slips are going. Owners who think it’s ridiculous for their coaches to be regarded as being in jeopardy by those paid to cover the league can issue a statement to the contrary, if they want.

In Green Bay, June comments from new Packers CEO Ed Policy created the impression that 2025 would be an up-or-out year for LaFleur. Even now, three days after a postseason collapse against the Bears, the Packers have not said that LaFleur definitely will be back for 2026.

As to Tomlin, the prevailing view by the time the playoffs rolled around was that Tomlin wouldn’t be fired, and that he’d be gone only if he chose to be. (Which is exactly what happened.)

Rodgers’s take was, frankly, erroneous. It’s not the media’s fault that coaches are viewed to be on the hot seat. It’s our job to try to figure out where the inevitable openings (so far this year, nine of 32) will be. And if the NFL’s owners are sufficiently wishy-washy to make firing decisions based on comments from “Twitter experts and all the experts on TV now who make it seem like they know what the hell they’re talking about,” that’s the thing Rodgers should be whining about.

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